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Is militant atheism a sore spot for the legalization movement?

So after several conversations of my own between myself and militant atheists, and after watching many conversations between other people on one side Christians or religiously oriented people and on the other side militant atheists, I have noticed several patterns.

One it seems often the case that the conversation descends down to a low blow exchange of insults.
In my experience, and maybe I am unique, it does seem that the militant atheists are the party firing off the low blows, with disparaging words like “moron, asshole, retard, etc”.
In other cases like in the example from HempFest 2008 (below) the insults are more subtle, but the loudness and the anger seems to be similar.

Now I don’t have a problem with anyone being atheist, or against a supreme being, or against religion for that matter.  I myself had been a self subscribed agnostic for many of years, and I still do not belong to any religious nitch.

But the problem that I have, is that over 70% of the voting public describe themselves as Christian.
And much more than that describe themselves as having a belief in a supreme being.
So with such a high amount of voters favoring the idea of a supreme being, it would seem that the few select activists that go completely out of their way to offend these people, would be detrimental to getting legalization passed in the voting booth.
Reference to these demographics:

People who verbally attack Christians at Hempfest, and journalists who also go out of their way to insult Christians who all purport to be determined to get cannabis legalized are in fact being counter productive with their isolationism and approach to people who are religious.

I have often witnessed this journalist from Toke of the Town, Steve Elliot attack, and intentionally offend Christians with low blows and insulting words.
This was my personal experience with Steve:

And this is a video that I found on facebook from Seattle Hempfest 2008 where over 1 dozen self proclaimed atheist and agnostic people surround and verbally attack a few Christian guys who were preaching in public.

So is there any conscience of being responsible with our words?  And if we are public figures in the legalization movement, it would seem like it would be helpful to try to find common ground, rather than constantly pushing away people of faith, and isolating the legalization efforts in the USA.

In fact cannabis is an ancient Christian/Israelite sacrament, as well as a sacrament of Hindu beliefs and Islam.   See this response to Keith Stroup.
Around the first of this year I made a video that I tried to bring unity in this matter to the legalization movement:


I guess I probably need to define some things here, because we all have different understandings of different words.


Websters 3rd International Dictionary 1971 says:

7a. a cause, principle, system of tenets held with ardor, devotion, conscientiousness and faith, a value held to be of supreme importance, 7b. a quality, condition, custom, or thing inspiring zealous devotion, conscientious maintenance, and cherishing.

In the advanced Oxford’s learners dictionary, atheism is even defined as a religion:

“be/become a believer/an atheist/an agnostic/a Christian/Muslim/Hindu/Buddhist, etc.”



a : a disbelief in the existence of deity

A militant atheist, or militant atheism is a term assigned to a sect of the Russian government in WWII that went by several titles, and militant atheists was one of them:

Militant atheism – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

“League of Militant Atheists of the USSR”

It is also notable that many atheists and many Christians share something else in common.
Atheism and Christianity are considered a “religion” in the US Courts:
So I guess my question is “CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET A BONG?”!

One thought on “Is militant atheism a sore spot for the legalization movement?

  1. The title of the video and the content of the video, nor does the response indicate that abiogensis would be discussed. However I have compiled my data that I have put together so far on the topic at hand.


    And this is my compilation so far, which I have posted on my blog.


    And this is the compilation that I have created so far. And mind you, I do watch your videos, when I have time. It is not always the case that I do have time. But I am going to post this for now, which is what I have posted on my blog to keep a running tally of these things as I am able to compile them.

    So this conversation from my long time troll carried into quite a conversation on youtube which now has over 100 comments and 3 videos that I created on the subject.

    I wanted to follow up as I explained to the participants that I would compile my thoughts on this and post it at a later time. Some are demanding that I answer their questions (that I have already answered in previous works such as videos and blogs), and I wanted to just give a full spectrum of the responses that I have already made on this subject which does in fact already answer every question that they demand that I answer.
    Unfortunately they want me to try to fit a round peg into a square hole with my answers to them, and sometimes it is important to realize that you can’t please everyone all the time. So you might as well do what you please. Here is that for me. So far this is what I have written in the past, or made video responses for. However I do intend to create an update to my data and I will post a new article soon.

    I have been busy, and I have not had a chance to compile the article that I intended to write today on “Evolution vs. Creationism”.
    That will have to come later. I have wrote a few things on this, and really not much has changed since. So I will link what I currently have on the subjects of:

    Intelligent Design



    And follow up with a blog later on the subject.

    First this is my response to AronRa:

    I referenced that in this video.

    Then there is my response to Brandon Wade Cartman:

    And then there are a few things that I have created in the past.

    This is my playlist on evolution:

    This is my response to Richard Dawkins:

    This is a video that I made about Quantum Theories and the Science of Creation;

    I wrote a few articles about militant atheism, this was from many years ago;

    I recorded this excellent radio broadcast about Darwin’s racism in his work. It is incredible that people still respect this man, not yet that they still somehow follow all of his Pseudo-science.

    Darwin vs. Creationism Part 1:

    Part 2 (Creation vs. Humanism – Darwin and racism)

    And that’s what I have so far.

    It’s not to say that I haven’t learned anything by discussing this topic lately. But more so than anything, I have very limited time.

    I have 4 kids and I am traveling abroad. Life is a little chaotic right now.

    Will follow up though.

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