Articles Tagged: prop 19

Today is the day for freedom in California

November 2nd, 2010 | By Pirate

Today will always be remembered as ganja freedom day once Prop 19 passes!

I hope I dont have to rant about the anti-Prop 19 people any more. I get frustrated with them. If this passes, I won’t be frustrated anymore, I’ll move forward with freedom!

Something I posted earlier in a conversation, and I want to share it.

Here are some answers to the anti-Prop-19 folks, to comments and points that they often make.

They say:  Prop 19 controls patients rights too

Prop 215 does not govern Prop 19, and Prop 19 does not govern Prop 215. They are two separate pieces of legislation that govern two completely different topics. One does not effect the other, similar to how being a not-for-profit business is governed under different laws than being a for profit business. Both co-exist in the same society, both are in business to raise money. But they differ greatly in how they are governed.

It is the same thing with non-patients and patients, Prop 19 and Prop 215. Totally different governing rules.

Also the non-profit vs. profit thing is important to note too.
Because marijuana is not a tax exempt product. Marijuana is currently taxable in California.

When you become a non-profit you don’t have to pay taxes if you abide by the rules.  If your product is marijuana, and you are a non-profit then your product is tax exempt. But its the same thing as if you are selling oregano or milk, whatever.

Prop 19 doesn’t change any tax laws. Because all of the taxing is already going on in MMJ.

The problem is the black market, and the cartels. They are not getting taxed on the billions of FOR PROFIT dollars that they are making from our citizens..

We need to take this market back, and start growing HEMP!

They say:  Prop19 gives the cannabis industry over to the big corporations.

This is not true.  For example the city code in Oakland that was unanimously passed to allow large scale grow ops, was written up before Proposition 19 was ever written.  Despite that Prop19 didn’t pass, permits are still valid and will still be issued. 

Prop 19 had nothing more to do with large business, than Prop 215 did.  The proof is, that under Prop 215 mega grow ops are popping up anyway. 

So if the large grow ops are popping up now without Prop 19, then how did stopping Prop 19 help anything with the large corporation concern?

Sorry, this was at 5am, no light

As a father, I support Proposition 19

November 1st, 2010 | By Pirate

I love this ad, it really hits home.  I don’t want my kids using any substances until they are out of school, and prepared for any related consequences.
I think 18 is a good age for young adults to start making big and independent decisions, and I know that I will have educated my kids enough to make the right decisions.

This recent Prop-Proposition 19 video is excellent!

Prop 19 in the news:  Good Morning America: Proposition 19: California May Vote to Legalize Marijuana

If all of the stoners in the world has as much balls as Zach Galifianakis

October 30th, 2010 | By Pirate

If all of the stoners in the world has as much balls as Zach Galifianakis, we’d already have our freedom!

Zach Galifianakis fires up a real joint on the Bill Maher show in support of Proposition 19 in California.

What an awesome freedom fighter!

Three weeks until ganja freedom in California!

October 12th, 2010 | By Pirate

There is roughly 3 weeks left until the voters of California approve Proposition 19, and freedom is re-realized in California!

I urge everyone concerned about freedom to use the tools at Fire Dog Lake to call fellow voters and remind them to get out to vote!

Vote YES on Prop 19! Legalize Marijuana 2010

August 30th, 2010 | By Pirate

I am not currently a California resident, but I own property in California, and I grew up there off and on.
We will be moving back to Cali within the next 12 months, and this is partially why.  Prop 19 baby!

Proposition 19 offers more freedom to more people for using cannabis.

In my video I describe how I don’t believe Prop 19 effects medical marijuana, and how local municipalities are already taxing and regulating medical marijuana.

I think it’s a shame that only less than 100,000 Californians get to enjoy legal marijuana, but millions of others are at risk of getting a cannabis crime (drug crime) on their record, which would make life much more difficult for most.  (jobs, school, military service can all be interfered with by having a drug crime on your record).

It is time we START to restore freedom with Prop 19, and it is important to amend this law to make it less restrictive in the future.

Please see my video blog.

Socialism in the USA, how the drug war gains support

August 24th, 2010 | By Pirate

It is truly sad to me to see so many people misunderstand what socialism is all about.

I recently have read an article about socialism by Milton Friedman titled “The Drug War as a Socialistic Enterprise“.

I had a debate with several opponents of Proposition 19 in California who at least one of them despite being a cannabis consumer is very much in favor of socialism, and also an strong opponent of Prop 19.

When she said this about capitalism, I was sure she didn’t fully understand socialism:

“Ha! We’l have to agree to dis agree my friend. You don’t see what the government is truly doing when it enacts these “socialist” policies. You should really do some research into what you’re saying. Have you ever read “A People’s History of the United States”? If not, I highly reccomend it. Perhaps it will explain some misconceptions you have about socialism. Good luck when the shit hits the fan, because we will be FORCED to cooperate or DIE. Socialism DOES work, when capitalists don’t come and screw it all up. Get educated, please.”

First, lets look at what socialism is, socialism is based on Marxism.  This is the role of the state in socialism.

In Marxist theory, the state is a mechanism dominated by and utilized in the interests of the ruling class to subjugate other classes, to legitimize the existing socio-economic system and to promote the interests of the dominant class.[7]”

RE: wikipedia Socialism/Marxism

An accurate portrait of socialism was WWII Soviet Union and Nazi Germany.   I don’t think much explaination needs to be posted about those two eras.  The point is, when the government control various social aspects of our life, such as social security, affirmative action, etc.   Then the government controls more of our lives.   Socialism leads to fascism, its proven over and over again.

Our country was stronger and freer in a free market capitalistic society.   But when the government continued to take hold of more and more of our lives, via socialistic policies we started losing more and more of our freedom, and our will.

Now in socialist America, we have huge banks getting bailed out with our tax dollars, huge insurance companies getting bailed out with our tax dollars, all in the name of “doing the right thing for the people”.  Meanwhile these companies who made poor decisions and failed are giving million dollar bonus to their executives with our tax dollars, because we ignore our constitution and we have embraced socialism in the USA.

This is a great illustration from Milton Friedman:

“The fundamental problem we face is not the war on drugs-although some of us are most interested in that issue. The war on drugs and the harm which it does are simply manifestations of a much broader problem: the substitution of political mechanisms for market mechanisms in a wide variety of areas.

To illustrate, I want to go beyond the war on drugs. We all recognize that the war on drugs is destroying our inner cities. But if I were to ask any one of you what is the next most important factor that is destroying the inner cities, I suspect a great many would agree with me that the next most important factor is our defective educational system, the terrible schools in our inner cities, schools which do not teach, but which are essentially places to keep kids off the streets for a certain number of hours a day.

Both failures have the same source. The war on drugs is a failure because it is a socialist enterprise. Our schooling is deteriorating because it is a socialist enterprise. Except possibly for the military, education is the largest socialist enterprise in the United States. There are a few loopholes: private schools to which parents can send their children if they can afford to pay or, in the case of parochial schools, if they have certain religious views. However, ninety percent of all kids are in government schools. And that socialist institution performs the same as most other socialist institutions.”

I am amazed at how obvious this is, and yet how all of these socialists fail to grasp that socialism equals government control. 
Free market capitalism equals less government control.

If you are interested in trying socialism on, maybe try going to a different country to see how you like it.  Or open your history books up to the section about Nazi Germany.  But get that out of my country quick!  We don’t want your government regulations!

Please also see my “message to the dispensaries”

Why to legalize according to the youth – Prop 19

August 22nd, 2010 | By Pirate

Why should we legalize? I don’t know who this kid is, but he makes a lot of sense.

Devils advocate; Prop19 does not exempt cannabis medicine from taxes

August 22nd, 2010 | By Pirate

This is the statement I often get from opponents of Prop 19.

“Proposition 19 does not exempt patients from taxes”

My answer:

If Proposition 215 doesn’t already do that, then Proposition 19 won’t change anything.

Medical marijuana is already technically taxable in California.

At present only a portion of the state’s 200-plus medical cannabis dispensaries pay sales taxes. In principle, medical cannabis is subject to sales tax under current Board of Equalization rules, which exempt only drugs dispensed in licensed pharmacies by a physician’s prescription. However, many patients’ groups contend that sales tax shouldn’t apply to non-profit cooperatives and collectives.

So that is a reason for another new initiative.  If people want marijuana to not be a taxable substance for patients, then they need to step up to the plate and make that happen.  Because medical marijuana, unless prescribed via a pharmacy with DEA drug scheduling, etc, is not presently exempt from taxes.  So again, Prop19 doesn’t change Prop215.

California to legalize, how will that impact pharmers?

February 8th, 2010 | By Pirate

How will legalization effect the pharmers in California?

Since I have been in Humboldt County this week, I have interviewed several pharmers who are worried about the direction of the law reform movement which is about to take prohibition down, at least in California.

A few of the pharmers that I have spoken with here have raised these concerns.

  • Legalized marijuana will drive the price down
  • Legalized marijuana will limit who can sell it
  • Legalized marijuana will flood the market
  • Legalized marijuana could ultimately hurt their livelihood and potentially take food off their child[rens] plates

I can see where this concern comes in.  It does look like pot will be legalized.  It also looks like all of those points above could become true.

My response to them is that if they take precautions now, and work on starting their own dispensary then when Prop19 passes they can potentially get grandfathered in with their legitimate medical marijuana business to then serve all adults (not just patients).
I recommend starting a dispensary, or at very least get a business license now and keep it renewed.

Lets say that a legal market has no potential of helping pharmers out, and may potentially ruin their business as it is.
That is horrible, and I don’t wish for that to happen as a lot of people depend on this crop.

Then lets compare the current effects of prohibition.

  • Prohibition doesn’t stop people from using marijuana
  • Prohibition has hurt or destroyed the lives of almost 20 million Americans
  • Prohibition is now claiming almost one million victims each year
  • Prohibition allows police to violate the privacy and security of a person’s home or person
  • Prohibition fuels the crime in the black market (including violent crime, etc)

When I got arrested for possessing a few grams of weed when I was a kid growing up in Utah, those charges disqualified me from military service and many college and job related benefits.   Having a “drug” charge on your record disqualifies you from many benefits that most Americans take for granite.

My hope is that California will make cannabis a viable and profitable resource and put a lot of people to work.  I hate to be taxed, and I think that the tax should be no more than retail sales tax.  But there is a lot of potential for pharmers, distributors and related jobs with legalization.

Not everyone will be growing weed  It’s difficult, and it takes a lot of patience and investment to get started.  Not just anyone can grow weed.  Similar to tobacco and alcohol, they are not widely produced by individuals. 
About the price being effected.  I believe it will be similar to how it is now.
There will be “work” (commercial bud) and kind icky sticky bud.  Similar to a fine cigar compared to a swisher sweet.

I say if you don’t like the law that is getting passed then start working on some modifications and propose them via ballot initiative.

BTW-  PLEASE do not ever vote for a law that will forbid individuals from growing their own!   It’s a weed, it should be allowed to grow like one.  Like God intended!