Articles Tagged: I-1068

What if I-1149 fails this year?

April 6th, 2011 | By Pirate

For anyone who is interested, I have been toying with the idea that 3 months (3000 signatures per day) may not work out.

That maybe we should plan well in advance for doing this again next year. Just as a precautionary measure, you know not putting all of our apples in one basket.

I have some ideas and maybe some backing for next year if we HAVE to run this again.
I consider that the problem with this year is that there wasn’t a lot of planning last year for this. Everyone thought I-1068 was the end all be all of our efforts. Unfortunately it didn’t work out, and honestly this may not work out this year either.

So far I have come up with some info, but nothing else that is solid yet.

In my opinion I think we should put some checks and balances in place.

1. No one in a leadership role with special interests, including dispensers, growers, lobbyists or pot lawyers. (Special interests freaks contributors, and volunteers out)

2. A reliable and proven 3rd party signature count provider. (I have some good info on this)

3. A very open structure to the organization, none of this “I am coordinator, you better respect me” bull

 

I am planning for the worst, but hoping for the best.

If anyone is interested, I will be working on this idea over the next 8 months, and I will be posting my ideas accordingly on xCannabis.com.
I may not want to run or lead the campaign, but I am just kicking around ideas and posting them publicly incase someone wants to use these ideas, or maybe I will run it if no one else steps up.

But this is too serious of an issue to let the legislature take control of our rights. I would hate to see something like HB 1550 pass, and I would especially hate for SB 5073 to pass!!!

 

 

Here is a resource that I am using, and I have others that I am investigating now.

Just FYI:

This is a group that people may want to look into for running successful citizens initiatives. Help on many levels, including info for professional independent petition counts>

Citizens in Charge Foundation
2050 Old Bridge Road Suite 103
Lake Ridge, VA 22192
Phone: (703) 492-1776
Fax: (703) 910-7728
Email: info@citizensincharge.org
www.citizensincharge.org

 

Thanks for being concerned about your freedom, and DOING SOMETHING about it!

 

Sincerely,

Ryan Thompson

www.xCannabis.com

1-888-644-3872

Emerald Sun sending love to the troops

June 22nd, 2010 | By Pirate

To all of you signature gatherers that spend tireless hours gathering signatures.

We sent a care package to Angela Johnson today, and here is what it contains.

Emerald Sun care package for I-1068

From EMERALD SUN


We sent two complete skateboards, and 10 t-shirts with a variety of our designs from Emerald Sun.

Angela will do a contest to spread these out.  Thanks Angela for all that you are doing, and thanks for not giving up!  I am honored to have worked with you!

 

 

From Sensible Washington

 

 

Look for the I-1068 ad in the Stranger tomorrow



the Stranger

 

Law Reform Policy on The Seattle Channel

Sensible Washington Folk Life Festival 2010

May 30th, 2010 | By Pirate

From Renata Rollins before Folk Life 2010




This is some of the videos during Folk Life.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z7X76dxTuI


Thanks to all of you signature gatherers!!!

Please support SENSIBLE WASHINGTON and all of the people and businesses who support I-1068!

http://sensiblewashington.org

Props to Doug Hiatt and Sensible Washington!

May 20th, 2010 | By Pirate

Props to the I-1068 people, and to NORML!


I know that these folks have been under heavy attack as of late.  A lot of conflicts are arising between the medical market, and the legalization movement.

Some good things and some not so good.   For example Medical Herb Providers and a few other cannabis friendly businesses are carrying the I-1068 shirts.
There are some available from Sensible Washington now as well as from Emerald Sun in Spokane.  Check out their site for details;   http://sensiblewashington.org/buy-a-t-shirt/


Buy a T-shirt

This is the shop that is selling the t-shirts. Contact them to get a I-1068 T!!

Speck Print Shop
219 Broadway East
Capitol Hill
Seattle, WA 98102
Hours: Noon to 7pm Mon-Sat


There was a lot of conflicts and chaos going on last week when we ended our 5% donation deal from Emerald Sun.  So we haven’t sent in the $20 that we owe Sensible Washington.  We gave away a lot of shirts and we still are giving away a lot of shirts for I-1068.  It’s a way to get the message out, and with a campaign that is on limited funds, it’s important that we get the word out any way that we can.  I personally make YouTube videos, wear I-1068 t-shirts, and post on many different blogs and facebook groups about it.  There are many ways to help,  Most importantly (this is an area that I am lacking), we need signatures!  Contact Sensible Washington to learn how to help with that.


It’s NOT too late for real change!

Go I-1068!

Great news report on I-1068

May 2nd, 2010 | By Pirate

This is from a few months back, but how wonderful it is to get a wiff of this kind of freedom.  We are almost there people!

May 1st, lots of CHANGE, and good change too!

May 2nd, 2010 | By Pirate

I was happy to be able to participate in the Global Marijuana March.  Got to see a lot of friends, and met new ones.  I continued to have more and more irie as the day passed.  What a blessing!  Praise Jah!


I wasn’t used to seeing this kind of a turn out.  When we protest in Utah and Idaho there are maybe 3 people at most.  Usually they are all related to me.  LOL  Sometimes we get a volunteer from drug court, which is cool!  I always try to protest at drug court, to kind of ease the pain of the victims that have to be violated there.  Even in Provo Utah, I get tons of support, but very few bodies to help out.

But protesting in WA has always been exciting!!!  Lots of participation, and people concerned about their civil rights!


As our way of saying thanks, we gave out what shirts we could to those that were working hard on advertising the I-1068 initiative.

We met several signature gatherers, I wish I would have had shirts for all of them.  I only came with 10 shirts, and I expected that to be more than enough.  But people were buying, trading, and getting shirts as soon as I got there.  More people wanted to buy shirts, but I had already given most of them away somehow.


We are dedicated to giving more I-1068 shirts away.


If anyone wants to support our efforts to give these shirts away, please visit Emerald Sun Design Studio and buy a few shirts from us. 
Our prices our reasonable.  Especially for the continued 4/20 special sale.  We basically started the 420 Special sale for 4/20.  But since there are so many 4:20’s in a day, we just keep that special going and going.   So it’s the first shirt for $14.20, and you get the option of buy a I-1068 shirt for $4.20.    It rounds out to $20 with tax.  2 shirts for $20, thats our 4/20 special!




Also if you have had any trouble contacting me by email.  I have 30 different email accounts, so the best way for me to sort them is to get email via this contact form.  That way your email messages do not go to junk or get lost in cyberspace somehow. 
This same contact form is also on our ABOUT page.


Dispensary visit today, disappointing

April 22nd, 2010 | By Pirate

I have a little story about my visit to a Spokane based “co-op” today.  I called ahead at 4pm, and said “Im a patient, but Im not a member yet, can I get some meds, and what do I need to do”.   The person on the other end said “come down today, and we’ll take care of you, but we close at 5, so only come if you can get here before 5′.  So I drove straight there, which consisted of driving from north Division, to I-90, and then east bound a couple of exists, of course while fighting traffic the whole way there.


I got there, and introduced myself.  There was a woman at the front desk, who was not who I spoke to on the phone.  She said “you will need to fill this out”.  I did that, and I handed it back to her.  Then I noticed a bulletin board on the wall in the waiting room, and I asked if I could put my business cards up there.  She asked “what kind of business do you do”.  I told her about xCannabis.com first and that I support legalization with rally’s and media, I told her that I am a supporter of I-1068.   She replied “Oh, we don’t support that”.  I said “REALLY?”


This is where the conversation not only shocked me, but it made me furious.  But I kept my cool.


I said, do you know what it’s all about?  She said “Yes, and we don’t want to have the government regulating our medicine’.


I illustrated the lingo in the initiative, and I explained that there is no regulation for those above 18 or older.  There is no tax regulation, there is no quantity regulation, and there is no licensing.  It is true legalization for those 18+.   Of course DUI/DWI laws will still exist, and laws concerning minors will still exist, but un-like i-692 there are is no regulation on quantity, location, or anything else.  People can possess, grow, transport and distribute (to adults) with no government oversight what-so-ever.

Then she changed her story and said ‘Yea but then big companies will come in and commercialize it”.  

I said “Even so, that won’t change the fact that you, me, and any other adult can grow, possess, transport and distribute the substance”..

This only escalated to “ya, but this, and ya but that”.


The fact is, that some of these dispensaries are not interested in legalization because this natural plant that grows like a weed out of the ground like G-d intended will be able to be grown, possessed and sold by just about anyone (except kids), and their prices and profit will go down (possibly).

There is no hint of regulation that she originally mentioned, I just think that she didn’t expect me to know that much about the initiative.   Well, FYI  I am educated, and I am disappointed that this dispensary can buy into this institution of prohibition.


At the end she said “Well, I believe in decriminalization, rather than legalization’.   My reply was “The only problem with that is that people will still get arrested for certain quantities, or certain transactions, and the government can still force us to forfeit our assets, and they can still take our kids away”.  Decriminalization is not much better than prohibition!


At the end of the conversation I was still waiting to buy my meds.  Then she said ‘ok, we have a 24 hour wait, so please come back tomorrow”.   AFTER ALL THAT?  This is the first time they thought it would be a good idea to tell me I was wasting my time?


I asked her for the paperwork that I had just filled out, and I walked out.  I will not be returning.


To be fair, I should have figured that CBR closes at around 5pm, so I guess I should have realized that they needed time to verify me.  But it’s their business, they should know to at least warn me about the 24 hour verification process.  I never needed that at any of the other dispensaries!  My favorite dispensary was closed today though, so I had to find an alternative and I thought I would try a new place.  (mistake)


I am very supportive of these dispensaries which is why I give away free advice and free software to dispensaries to help them lower their costs, and to help protect their business.  Last year I spent thousands of dollars going to these dispensaries and getting meds from them for MORE than I can buy them for in the black market.

I don’t dislike the idea of dispensaries, but when they act like they are in favor of prohibition, AND waste my time all in the same day..  Well, I would rather go to the black market, sorry!  (But I just smoked the keify leaves from my last crop instead)


Here is the ultimate come back, that I should mention.   With decriminalization, can we utilize and grow hemp?   That is what will fix our environment and fix our economy, the ability to grow industrial hemp.  But unless we end prohibition, we can NOT utilize the hemp plant, not even under decriminalization status.  It must be a full end to prohibition just like I-1068 introduces to be able to fully benefit from this wonderful plant!  Anything else just fuels the cops and the black market, and of course the dispensaries (for now).  But the average pot consumer will still suffer unless we end prohibition, and our economy will suffer until we end prohibition, people will still be locked up until we end prohibition, and we will get no benefits from growing hemp until we end prohibition.


Prohibition costs our country 77 billion a year, and makes the cartels rich, as well as the prison industry.  END PROHIBITION!  SUPPORT  I-1068!

www.sensiblewashington.org


(btw- I didn’t mention the name of the dispensary intentionally, because it doesn’t matter which one, the point is still the same)


See more at this group:  http://slu2.com/?r1

Dispensary legalization group

420 Earth Day Benefit for I-1068

April 16th, 2010 | By Pirate

Come to the I-1068 Earth Day benefit, $5 suggested donation (to help legalize weed in WA)

Reefer Madness is so funny, especially knowing that the government seriously thought this would work, back in the 30’s! 

It probably did work on some fools!  LOL 

Lets have some laughs!

Emerald Sun will be selling shirts at the benefit, 25% of these sales go to Sensible Washington.


I-1068 Benefit Concert and Reefer Madness!



Time: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:00 PM – Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:00 AM
Host: Renata Rollins
Contact Phone: 509-723-9965
Location:

The Empyrean (Spokane, WA)


171 S. Washington

Spokane, WA 99201


Emerald Sun T-Shirts and threads

update

There wasn’t enough participation tonight to be able to give away all of the wears that we brought. So we will have all of these, and we will ad more to the raffle next time. So at least 6 raffle prizes for the next get together, which I suspect will be the NORML/Sensible WA meeting at 4pm on Saturday @ he Empyrean 171 S. Washington, Spokane. Congrats to the three winners from last night!

Douglas Hiatt on I-1068, sounds like heaven!

April 5th, 2010 | By Pirate

I just want to thank Dougals Hiatt  and those who are working on I-1068!  Thank you so much!


This is Douglas Hiatt on King5 News talking about I-1068 and legalizing marijuana in Washington.
These are great facts!


This is for my Utah friends and people who are Latter Day Saints (Mormons)


A.D. 1854. The earliest paper to be made in Utah was formed by hand by Thomas Howard, an English Mormon, assisted by Thomas Hollis. The small beginning was sponsored by Brigham Young (1801-77) and the Mormon Church.  The first sheets of paper were produced on June 27, 1854 and probably found their original use in the printing of the Deseret News, Brigham Youngs newspaper, which began publication in Great Salt Lake City, June 15, 1850 this notice appeared in his newspaper:  Rags! Rags! Rags! Save your rags, everybody in Deseret, save your rags; old wagon covers [hemp], tents [hemp], quilts [hemp and flax], shirts [hemp], etc., are wanted for paper. [First mill opened in the Far West.]

Legalizing cannabis is not an un-Mormon priniciple



Whats with the monkey?

Currently one of our rotating head logos has a smoking monkey on it.
Some want to know whats up with the monkey’s? 
It doesn’t have a lot to do with the Zion Curtain, but in Jack Herer’s book “The Emperor Wears No Clothes“, there is an article about the government tests done with marijuana in the 70’s.

The researchers gave the monkey enough smoke to suffocate them, and that is exactly what happened to them, over and over again. Tell me one human that you know who smokes 63 Colombian strength joints in 5 minutes!?!?!! 
See this article, or reference The Emperor Wears No Clothes”.

How that relates to me, or even Utah.  Is that I served almost 8 months in Utah for possession (not distribution, not for growing, JUST possession) of a few grams of weed before I was 19 years old.  Utah has insane weed laws.


http://xcannabis.com/2009/08/jack-herer-on-the-marijuana-monkeys/

http://xcannabis.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jackherer_monkeys1.jpg

http://xcannabis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/jackherer_monkeys2.jpg

http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html

Eleventh of September

Uwe Banton – 11th September

11th of September is a sad day for many different tragic events in history.
I think about this day on occasion. Even though it’s sad, it’s good to remember.

News from the Rev

Happy New Year!   I’ve been busy with some projects.  Doing some community service, by modifying some really cool open source software, for use in a marijuana dispensary environment.  I’ve invested some $$ and a lot of time in to this project.  We released the software(s) for free at EmeraldPOS.com
I have also been busy with cancer awareness and I have been posting what the CURE for cancer is, CANNABIS!
The new year 2010 seems like the old year, but progress IS being made in our government. If nothing else, the government is respecting the 10th Amendment better than in previous days. Marijuana is not such a villainous plant is seems. Laws are being passed, public servants are not being prejudice or piggoted (pot biggoted?)..

It also seems many if not most than many of the politicians in office today including the last 3 presidents of the USA are ‘former’ pot smokers. The current president “inhaled frequently, that was the point” by his own admission. Pot isn’t the evil corruption of this world like many religious folk make it out to be.   In fact, it’s quite the opposite.   I made a few videos last year about religion and cannabis.   Please enjoy the links below.  From the video at the top that shows that cannabis cures cancer.  To the cannabis and religion videos that I’ll be posting at the bottom. All in all 2009 was a great year, and 2010 seems like it will be the same.  Praise Jah!

Cannabis Cures Cancer



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGmPamqJpf8

More Cannabis Cures Cancer:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJcVr0GLsEA

Politics – Utah vs. Marijuana: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfp25vJZ_5k

1rst web sermon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z0lVzdP7DI

Politics, Religious Freedom (Barack Obama): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa8Q2I4TpZI

Protest at Drug Court in Idaho Falls on 4/20/2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXWGyXMJrVw

There was a bunch of good times. You can see the rest of them at: http://youtube.com/xcannabiscom

http://youtube.com/utahpirateradio

I think one of the better videos that I’ve made was my topic of Marcus Garvey / Bob Marley and the Irish Immigration in the early days of the USA, at least this is one that I put a lot of heart in to.



Yolanda Madden gets a new trial!

I love Barry Cooper, I think he is an outstanding human being. 
He is the former ‘top drug officer’ in his area, where in his career he headed a 14 organization drug task force.

Barry Cooper ultimately saw the pain and destruction and ineffectiveness of the drug war, and he switched sides and married a pot dealer.

See the latest story about what happened when Barry Cooper setup Odessa TX police in order to bring attention to the Yolanda Madden case.

Yolanda Madden gets a new trial! < link to Cooper’s site!

It’s too bad when the legal system itself is more corrupt than the so-called “criminals”. 
Odessa PD should be ashamed!

Good work Barry!

Legalizing cannabis is not an un-Mormon priniciple

It is a fact that Brigham Young himself directed his flock to grow cannabis.

From a document by an Idaho state Rep (Tom Trail)

Seven states have approved hemp cultivation. Many more might follow if North Dakota clears all the administrative and legal hurdles. Idaho Rep. Tom Trail, R-Moscow, says he will resubmit a thrice-rejected bill allowing farmers to plant hemp if North Dakota succeeds. To the Eastern Idaho legislators who object, Trail notes that Brigham Young, patriarch of the early Mormon Church, directed Utah settlers to grow hemp.

“I think it’s a good crop,” Trail says.

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_pf.asp?ID=166347

Here are other references to Brigham Young’s direction to Mormon settlers.

(he also instructed them to grow tobacco)

A.D. 1854. The earliest paper to be made in Utah was formed by hand by Thomas Howard, an English Mormon, assisted by Thomas Hollis. The small beginning was sponsored by Brigham Young (1801-77) and the Mormon Church.  The first sheets of paper were produced on June 27, 1854 and probably found their original use in the printing of the Deseret News, Brigham Youngs newspaper, which began publication in Great Salt Lake City, June 15, 1850 this notice appeared in his newspaper:  Rags! Rags! Rags! Save your rags, everybody in Deseret, save your rags; old wagon covers [hemp], tents [hemp], quilts [hemp and flax], shirts [hemp], etc., are wanted for paper. [First mill opened in the Far West.]

http://www.hempmuseum.org/SUBROOMS/HEMP%20PAPER%20CHRON.htm

This one from Rep. Tom Trails of Idaho:

http://www.infotrail.com/idaho2008/Pre_Legislative_Update/Hemp_Update/hemp_update.html

Like the prohibition in the 30’s that cost much money and many lives.  This prohibition (of cannabis) will end too!

Judge and former narcotics agent support legalization

Judge Nepolitano with special guest Barry Cooper discuss the benefits of ending prohibition, just like the USA did in the 30’s with alcohol.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV3bBqpy76M

Also see this report:

A labor organization’s former voice for a drug-free work force pleaded guilty Friday to trafficking medical-grade marijuana.

I support Barry Cooper for Attorney General! Go Barry!

Utah is responsible for the first cannabis prohibition

Police Harassment in Utah

Police Harassment in Utah

I have been researching the beginning of cannabis prohibition in the USA.  I have found several sources that show that the first prohibition of cannabis in the USA started with Mormons in Utah, without any science or logical reasoning.

Mormons which outlaw coffee, tea, alcohol, and tobacco for dogmatic religious reasons, banned cannabis when a group of Mormon missionaries returned from Mexico with cannabis.

This movie “High – A true tale of American Marijuana”  is a great show with truthful history of cannabis prohibition in the USA.
I HIGHLY recommend it!


HIGH The True Tale of American Marijuana

Also see a post that I made about this on xCannabis.com.

Also reference drugwarrant.com which has a great article on the subject.

LDS bloggers vs. the facts – prohibition discussion

This is a conversation that I recently got into with some long time LDS blogger aquaintenances that I have chatted with for over 8 years.  I felt compelled to bring this conversation to my blog and archive it, because with some of these same folks, I have had over 500 posts deleted in one day.  So I wanted to set the record straight, and archive it.

I’ve done this before when they have accused me of lying, cheating, and abusing them.  ROFL.  I either make a video, and/or archive these conversations for later.  I have a whole collection of these conversations spanning over 8 years, because of how many times I’ve been censored by some of these folks.

Anyway, this conversation is about LDS sponsored prohibition.   I made comments earlier in the conversation about “Why don’t LDS spend more money feeding the poor and helping out widows, and less time and money trying to take people’s rights away”..


Burt LDS in brown, Whew in blue and me in red:

If you drink that coffee your going to hell

If you drink that coffee your going to hell


“Then you make a statement that the LDS financed over half of the Prop 8 campaign! First off the LDS Church did not contribute any money to the Prop 8 campaign! Second what ever the real contribution by LDS members to the Prop 8 campaign, it is within their right to contribute to what they want to pass! No real rights were taken away by prop 8 just the right to call a same sex union a marriage, which is not a right!” My Previous comment!

Burt, if the LDS leaders that urged the members to donate, doesn’t qualify. And if the members don’t make up the organization. Then you have a point.

Here is an apostle urging the members to support the initiative: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1B2ECCDC5A032A82&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=ewXaVmfOj2w
And the members responded. The members make the church. Without the members, the organization doesn’t exist.


Again I want you to back up your claim that the LDS Church financed over 50% of the Prop 8 campaign or admit that you Lied!

What happens when you learned the truth? Do you apologize Burt?

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,[44][45][46] whose members are commonly known as Mormons, also publicly supported the proposition. The First Presidency of the church announced its support for Proposition 8 in a letter intended to be read in every congregation in California. In this letter, church members were encouraged to “do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time.”[47][48] The response of the LDS membership to their leadership’s appeals to donate money and volunteer time was very supportive,[49] such that Latter-day Saints provided a significant source for financial donations in support of the proposition, both inside and outside the State of California.[50] About 45% of out-of-state contributions to ProtectMarriage.com came from Utah, over three times more than any other state.[51] ProtectMarriage, the official proponents of Proposition 8, estimate that about half the donations they received came from LDS sources, and that “eighty to ninety percent” of the early volunteers going door-to-door were LDS.[52] The LDS Church produced and broadcast to its congregations a program describing the opposition to the Proposition, and describing the timeline it proposes for what it describes as grassroots efforts to oppose the Proposition.[53][54] Local LDS leaders set organizational and monetary goals for their membership-sometimes quite specific-to fulfill this call.

Minnesota, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Utah all have 3.2 beer laws!

I’ve lived in Colorado, a state where in fact you CAN buy wine in the grocery store, which IS stronger than 3.2%. Don’t misinterpret what I said.
If I want to cook with wine, I can go to the grocery store in the states that you have listed, and buy wine for my meal. In Utah, no go.

In Utah the only beer you can buy in a grocery, convenience, or drug store is 3.2 % by weight the only place you can buy higher content beer is in Liquer stores and some bars with Liquer license, with high content beer aproval! In Colorado the only beer you can buy in a Grocery store or convenience store is 3.2% by weight Some drug stores can sell 5% by volume beer! Some bars can get a licence to sell 5% by volume beer but they are not allowed to advertise the higher content, therefore you never know what you may get when you walk in to a bar! In Minnesota, some places can get a license to sell 5% by volume beer but it is not easy! In oklahoma 3.2% by weight is the normal but some places can sell 5% by volume beer but it has to be at room temperature!

See my last response.

How did Utah get 3.2% by weight beer in the first place? Federal regulation during prohibition! Many states were slow to change to higher contents after the law was changed! Most states were more concerned with harder Alcholol. But the 5 listed above still have not increase the alchohol level in Beer! How much difference is there between 3.2% by weight and 5% by volume? 3.2% by weight is the same as 4% by volume so it is 1% difference by volume! the difference between beer and 80 proof vodka (40% by volume) is 35% by volume 1% does not seem as much does it?

Did you fail to comment on the fact that Utah was the only state in the Union with “Private Clubs” as opposed to traditional pubs and bars?

http://www.sltrib.com/tourism/ci_12721457

don’t you feel foolish constantly posting false information and statements that have no basis in facts?


Out of all of the times I have to repeat the facts, and provide sources, over and over again. Sometimes it’s just too much for me. I posted the truth (again) and I just backed it up (again). Do you ever feel compelled to offer an apology? After 8 years, probably not… ;(

Burt

Whew says:

Good post Steve! Isn’t it interesting how Ryan claims Aspirin has killed more people than “Weed”. I sometimes watch the TV program called “Cops”, and it is very interesting at how many times the Police stop guy’s and gal’s under the influence of “Pot”, “weed” take your pick. And it is very interesting how the Police will not let them continue to drive their car, I wonder why?


I have never advocated for anyone to drive while intoxicated on anything. Not pain killers, not alcohol, not prozac. I don’t believe in driving while intoxicated, and Im glad that there are laws against it.
However, if you want to know more about it, have you ever tried to find a study that demonstrates how a person reacts while stoned?
I have, here is one of few studies on the subject. (BTW- If you look up statistics, there isn’t much to find there either. Why?)

~Ryan

Links

Alcohol related automobile fatalities in the USA

Information about marijuana related auto fatalities

Video showing a drunk man buying alcohol at 10:45 in the morning

Video of a man driving while stoned (televised study of the effects before and after)



You decide which is more harmful. Cannabis, or alcohol… I dont advocate for driving while intoxicated. However, there is a reason why there are 40 million marijuana smokers in the USA, and so few marijuana related accidents. And it has nothing to do with prohibition.

More information about Prop 8 financing: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/01/top-officials-w.html

(this post was removed from the original blog, or at least made private so that general visitors of the site can’t see it.

But I made some PDF’s of the conversation for ref.

Angry after leaving – Mormon2

Angry after leaving – Mormon3



“Then you make a statement that the LDS financed over half of the Prop 8 campaign! First off the LDS Church did not contribute any money to the Prop 8 campaign! Second what ever the real contribution by LDS members to the Prop 8 campaign, it is within their right to contribute to what they want to pass! No real rights were taken away by prop 8 just the right to call a same sex union a marriage, which is not a right!” My Previous comment!

Burt, if the LDS leaders that urged the members to donate, doesn’t qualify. And if the members don’t make up the organization. Then you have a point.

Here is an apostle urging the members to support the initiative: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1B2ECCDC5A032A82&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&v=ewXaVmfOj2w
And the members responded. The members make the church. Without the members, the organization doesn’t exist.






Again I want you to back up your claim that the LDS Church financed over 50% of the Prop 8 campaign or admit that you Lied!

What happens when you learned the truth? Do you apologize Burt?




The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,[44][45][46] whose members are commonly known as Mormons, also publicly supported the proposition. The First Presidency of the church announced its support for Proposition 8 in a letter intended to be read in every congregation in California. In this letter, church members were encouraged to “do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time.” Local LDS leaders set organizational and monetary goals for their membership-sometimes quite specific-to fulfill this call.[47][48] The response of the LDS membership to their leadership’s appeals to donate money and volunteer time was very supportive,[49] such that Latter-day Saints provided a significant source for financial donations in support of the proposition, both inside and outside the State of California.[50] About 45% of out-of-state contributions to ProtectMarriage.com came from Utah, over three times more than any other state.[51] ProtectMarriage, the official proponents of Proposition 8, estimate that about half the donations they received came from LDS sources, and that “eighty to ninety percent” of the early volunteers going door-to-door were LDS.[52] The LDS Church produced and broadcast to its congregations a program describing the opposition to the Proposition, and describing the timeline it proposes for what it describes as grassroots efforts to oppose the Proposition.[53][54]

Minnesota, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado and Utah all have 3.2 beer laws!

I’ve lived in Colorado, a state where in fact you CAN buy wine in the grocery store, which IS stronger than 3.2%. Don’t misinterpret what I said.
If I want to cook with wine, I can go to the grocery store in the states that you have listed, and buy wine for my meal. In Utah, no go.

In Utah the only beer you can buy in a grocery, convenience, or drug store is 3.2 % by weight the only place you can buy higher content beer is in Liquer stores and some bars with Liquer license, with high content beer aproval! In Colorado the only beer you can buy in a Grocery store or convenience store is 3.2% by weight Some drug stores can sell 5% by volume beer! Some bars can get a licence to sell 5% by volume beer but they are not allowed to advertise the higher content, therefore you never know what you may get when you walk in to a bar! In Minnesota, some places can get a license to sell 5% by volume beer but it is not easy! In oklahoma 3.2% by weight is the normal but some places can sell 5% by volume beer but it has to be at room temperature!

See my last response.

How did Utah get 3.2% by weight beer in the first place? Federal regulation during prohibition! Many states were slow to change to higher contents after the law was changed! Most states were more concerned with harder Alcholol. But the 5 listed above still have not increase the alchohol level in Beer! How much difference is there between 3.2% by weight and 5% by volume? 3.2% by weight is the same as 4% by volume so it is 1% difference by volume! the difference between beer and 80 proof vodka (40% by volume) is 35% by volume 1% does not seem as much does it?

Did you fail to comment on the fact that Utah was the only state in the Union with “Private Clubs” as opposed to traditional pubs and bars?

http://www.sltrib.com/tourism/ci_12721457

don’t you feel foolish constantly posting false information and statements that have no basis in facts?


Out of all of the times I have to repeat the facts, and provide sources, over and over again. Sometimes it’s just too much for me. I posted the truth (again) and I just backed it up (again). Do you ever feel compelled to offer an apology? After 8 years, probably not… ;(

Burt

Whew says:

Good post Steve! Isn’t it interesting how Ryan claims Aspirin has killed more people than “Weed”. I sometimes watch the TV program called “Cops”, and it is very interesting at how many times the Police stop guy’s and gal’s under the influence of “Pot”, “weed” take your pick. And it is very interesting how the Police will not let them continue to drive their car, I wonder why?


I have never advocated for anyone to drive while intoxicated on anything. Not pain killers, not alcohol, not prozac. I don’t believe in driving while intoxicated, and Im glad that there are laws against it.

However, if you want to know more about it, have you ever tried to find a study that demonstrates how a person reacts while stoned?

I have, here is one of few studies on the subject. (BTW- If you look up statistics, there isn’t much to find there either. Why?)

~Ryan

Links

Alcohol related automobile fatalities in the USA

Information about marijuana related auto fatalities

Video showing a drunk man buying alcohol at 10:45 in the morning

Video Showing a stoned man using cannabis while driving (before getting stoned and after)


You decide which is more harmful. Cannabis, or alcohol… I dont advocate for driving while intoxicated. However, there is a reason why there are 40 million marijuana smokers in the USA, and so few marijuana related accidents. And it has nothing to do with prohibition.

More information about Prop 8 financing: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/01/top-officials-w.html

Protesting all alone behind the zion curtain

I have organized and attended many rallies in Utah and Idaho over the past year.  Whenever I have an opportunity to do it, I do.

Which means, every holiday that we travel to those areas, I make it a point to make a new sign, and I show it off in front of drug court at some town Behind the Zion Curtain.

I have very few if any people show up.  I often get the crotchety old man or old lady who lectures me about immorality or something.  But something that can be seen in the videos that I make is that people honk, hug me, or scream cheers of support.  And no small amount at that.  It is really fun making a bunch of noise in these town of Utah where prohibition is the normality.

Whether we are talking about people shunning those who drink coffee, or tea, or who smoke cigarettes, or come from a different religion and are proud of it.  All of these things are against Mormon doctrine.   You can see these doctrines in the “Word of Wisdom” which is actual a section from their book of doctrines titled “The Doctrine and Covenants” .   Reference: Doctrine and Covenants Section 89 (Also see the main LDS website for the Utah group here:  http://tinyurl.com/6ry8bt)

The idea that other religions get shunned because of the LDS in Utah, also appears to be doctrinal.   Joseph Smith History Chapter 1

” I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

I consider this institutionalized bigotry.  Which is something else that I advocate against.
So this Thankgiving, I will find myself Behind the Zion Curtain once again, and I will be looking for a good place to protest.
If anyone knows of any good parades, or events let me know.   info@behindzioncurtain.com

This is a video of one of my last protests in Utah:



BTW-  EVERYONE is welcome to attend and participate!

Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857

If you are wondering what that pile of rocks are on the banner at BehindZionCurtain.com, that is a mound built to memorialize a massive grave for over 120 innocent men, women and children that were killed while unarmed by Mormon leaders in Southern Utah in 1857.

The reason that I put that mound on the website, is as a protest to the LDS church not allowing the family members of the victims to properly mourn or give proper burial to their ancestors.
The LDS church owns the property where the current mound is now. But in the late 1850s a rock cairn was built with a cross on top in the exact same place as the LDS owned memorial is now. But Brigham Young in a fit of rage, ordered that the memorial be torn down. Since it has been rebuilt, the LDS church has prevented the family of the victims from erecting the signature cross that Major J. H. Carleton had originally constructed on the memorial, to give reverence to the faith of the victims who were buried there.
It should be noted that the LDS church does not consider the cross a sacred icon, and it is not worn by LDS and you will not find a cross at any LDS church or temple.

This is what the original cairn would have looked like:

Mountain Meadows Massacre Cairn

Mountain Meadows Massacre Cairn

The MMMF (Mountain Meadows Massacre Foundation) have constructed a replica of the original memorial in Carrollton Arkansas. See pictures at this link: MMMF Replica Memorial

It is my opinion that the LDS church are in the wrong for the massacre back in 1857. They are also wrong for restricting the family members of the victims from properly honoring their ancestors.
SHAME ON YOU LDS!

I want pot prices to GO DOWN!

April 3rd, 2010 | By Pirate

I want legalization so that marijuana prices go down, and so that our country has a wonderful, profitable, and eco-friendly crop that will revitalize our nation, and obviously I also want freedom and liberty restored!
Its a crime against humanity for the US to arrest over 860,000 people per year for a harmless plant!



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P.S. I have more grower friends than not at this point, just so you know mi’ familla, I still love you and I KNOW that the market will not fall out of the bottom with legalization. Heck most of you are still growing illegally as it is, so if you are doing it now you can do it later right?! LOL