Articles Tagged: co-op

Dispensary visit today, disappointing

April 22nd, 2010 | By Pirate

I have a little story about my visit to a Spokane based “co-op” today.  I called ahead at 4pm, and said “Im a patient, but Im not a member yet, can I get some meds, and what do I need to do”.   The person on the other end said “come down today, and we’ll take care of you, but we close at 5, so only come if you can get here before 5′.  So I drove straight there, which consisted of driving from north Division, to I-90, and then east bound a couple of exists, of course while fighting traffic the whole way there.


I got there, and introduced myself.  There was a woman at the front desk, who was not who I spoke to on the phone.  She said “you will need to fill this out”.  I did that, and I handed it back to her.  Then I noticed a bulletin board on the wall in the waiting room, and I asked if I could put my business cards up there.  She asked “what kind of business do you do”.  I told her about xCannabis.com first and that I support legalization with rally’s and media, I told her that I am a supporter of I-1068.   She replied “Oh, we don’t support that”.  I said “REALLY?”


This is where the conversation not only shocked me, but it made me furious.  But I kept my cool.


I said, do you know what it’s all about?  She said “Yes, and we don’t want to have the government regulating our medicine’.


I illustrated the lingo in the initiative, and I explained that there is no regulation for those above 18 or older.  There is no tax regulation, there is no quantity regulation, and there is no licensing.  It is true legalization for those 18+.   Of course DUI/DWI laws will still exist, and laws concerning minors will still exist, but un-like i-692 there are is no regulation on quantity, location, or anything else.  People can possess, grow, transport and distribute (to adults) with no government oversight what-so-ever.

Then she changed her story and said ‘Yea but then big companies will come in and commercialize it”.  

I said “Even so, that won’t change the fact that you, me, and any other adult can grow, possess, transport and distribute the substance”..

This only escalated to “ya, but this, and ya but that”.


The fact is, that some of these dispensaries are not interested in legalization because this natural plant that grows like a weed out of the ground like G-d intended will be able to be grown, possessed and sold by just about anyone (except kids), and their prices and profit will go down (possibly).

There is no hint of regulation that she originally mentioned, I just think that she didn’t expect me to know that much about the initiative.   Well, FYI  I am educated, and I am disappointed that this dispensary can buy into this institution of prohibition.


At the end she said “Well, I believe in decriminalization, rather than legalization’.   My reply was “The only problem with that is that people will still get arrested for certain quantities, or certain transactions, and the government can still force us to forfeit our assets, and they can still take our kids away”.  Decriminalization is not much better than prohibition!


At the end of the conversation I was still waiting to buy my meds.  Then she said ‘ok, we have a 24 hour wait, so please come back tomorrow”.   AFTER ALL THAT?  This is the first time they thought it would be a good idea to tell me I was wasting my time?


I asked her for the paperwork that I had just filled out, and I walked out.  I will not be returning.


To be fair, I should have figured that CBR closes at around 5pm, so I guess I should have realized that they needed time to verify me.  But it’s their business, they should know to at least warn me about the 24 hour verification process.  I never needed that at any of the other dispensaries!  My favorite dispensary was closed today though, so I had to find an alternative and I thought I would try a new place.  (mistake)


I am very supportive of these dispensaries which is why I give away free advice and free software to dispensaries to help them lower their costs, and to help protect their business.  Last year I spent thousands of dollars going to these dispensaries and getting meds from them for MORE than I can buy them for in the black market.

I don’t dislike the idea of dispensaries, but when they act like they are in favor of prohibition, AND waste my time all in the same day..  Well, I would rather go to the black market, sorry!  (But I just smoked the keify leaves from my last crop instead)


Here is the ultimate come back, that I should mention.   With decriminalization, can we utilize and grow hemp?   That is what will fix our environment and fix our economy, the ability to grow industrial hemp.  But unless we end prohibition, we can NOT utilize the hemp plant, not even under decriminalization status.  It must be a full end to prohibition just like I-1068 introduces to be able to fully benefit from this wonderful plant!  Anything else just fuels the cops and the black market, and of course the dispensaries (for now).  But the average pot consumer will still suffer unless we end prohibition, and our economy will suffer until we end prohibition, people will still be locked up until we end prohibition, and we will get no benefits from growing hemp until we end prohibition.


Prohibition costs our country 77 billion a year, and makes the cartels rich, as well as the prison industry.  END PROHIBITION!  SUPPORT  I-1068!

www.sensiblewashington.org


(btw- I didn’t mention the name of the dispensary intentionally, because it doesn’t matter which one, the point is still the same)


See more at this group:  http://slu2.com/?r1

Dispensary legalization group

To start a dispensary vs. starting a co-op

February 15th, 2010 | By Pirate

We are opening a store front in the near future and I have been faced with a lot of thoughts about how this will work.

If we should open a dispensary as in the California style dispensary, or if we should open a true non-profit co-op.

There are going to be hurdles either way.  It seems like on one hand a co-op would be more accountability and more overhead on time and resources.

But a dispensary would be more straight forward business, and less accountability and time overhead.

With this consideration, it seems more rational to start a dispensary as opposed to a co-op.

But then I think about why I am involved with this and why I want to be a part of this.  It is my motivation to help more than I take.  It is my obligation in fact, and I have stated it many times.  I think a true non-profit co-op is the best way to serve patients.   It allows for competition from pharmers, it allows the patient to interact with the person who is providing their medicine, and it gives patients a place to share ideas and genetics.

If we open a dispensary we would be helping pharmers sell their medicine, and helping patients get a fair deal.
We would charge a small donation from the farmers to provide to patients who are un-able to grow their own.
And allow for patients who want to grow their own a place to obtain seeds and education.

Our model that I have envisioned would not be cannabis cafe, or a hang out place.  It would be a place where patient can get medicine much like a pharmers market.  There would be pharmers who supply genetics/seeds themselves or they could donate to the co-op to pay for someone’s time to sell the product for them.  There would be a small fee for using the facility and the facility’s services such as security, advertising and equipment, possibly in a membership format.

A dispensary model is more of a buyer/seller for profit situation.   It seems like in that situation the prices become higher.

Dispensary vs. Co-op Poll:

BTW-  Thanks for the input John Parr!!   You are a wealth of knowledge and experience!!

Also I have been thinking about the subject that I hear about a lot lately of how there are very few producers of seeds that are not genetically altered in the world, and how a catastrophe could cause our seeds to be useless, and even global warming may be too much for these altered seeds to produce anything.
That is a scary thought to think of how many millions of acres of land are farmed in this world, and how many different kinds of crops there are.  With  there being so few providers of seeds for our food and the big providers are supplying genetically altered seeds?  That is a really scary thought!  It could become much like the monopolies on energy and possibly worse!

RE:   http://slu2.com/?x5
We need to protect our seed stock!